- In Brief
- In Depth
- Reclining
- Are all women today “important”? What does that mean for us?
- Telling the Story
- Women Reciting Maggid
- In Practice
- How can someone balance home responsibilities with the mitzva of maggid?
- Notes
- Sources
- Q&A
- Are all women today “important”? What does that mean for us?
- How can someone balance home responsibilities with the mitzva of maggid?
- Podcast
Must women recline at the Seder? Are women obligated in the mitzva of sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim?
In Brief
When is reclining at the Seder obligatory and why?
We recline for eating matza and drinking the four cups. Eating while reclining was common practice at formal Greek and Roman meals, a symbol of freedom that was out of reach for slaves.
Are women obligated to recline?
According to the Talmud, a woman in the presence of her husband would not recline unless she was considered an important women. Important can have to do with the marital relationship, with wealth, or with spiritual heft.
In the thirteenth century, Mordechai teaches that all women of his day are important and thus should recline. Though Rema later cites him, he justifies the practice of many ashkenazi women not to recline by noting that reclining is no longer how free people eat.
And in practice?
Whether a woman reclines in practice often depends on whether she has a clear family custom. Reclining can be seen as a stringency to discharge the mitzvot of matza and the four cups optimally.
What is the mitzva of sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim?
To relate our progress from slavery to freedom on leil ha-seder, with reference to our humble beginnings and the symbolism of Pesach, matza, and maror.
Are women obligated in it?
Yes, even though it is positive and time-bound. The obligation is either rabbinic (based on af hen) or on a Torah-level (based on af hen or on the obligation of eating matza).
What is the minimum to recite for maggid?
Ma Nishtana, avadim hayyinu, the ten plagues, Pesach, matza and maror, the beginning of Hallel, and the second cup, including its beracha.
In Depth
Rav Ezra Bick, Ilana Elzufon, and Shayna Goldberg, eds.
Reclining
Eating while reclining was common practice at formal Greek and Roman meals. The Mishna seems to take it for granted that men of means will recline for the meal. On leil ha-seder, however, the mishna teaches that even a poor man must eat in a reclining position:
משנה פסחים י:א
ואפילו עני שבישראל לא יאכל עד שיסב
Mishna Pesachim 10:1
Even a poor person in Israel may not eat until he reclines
Rashi explains that reclining is yet another way to experience our freedom.
רש”י פסחים צט:
עד שיסב כדרך בני חורין, זכר לחירות, במטה ועל השלחן.
Rashi Pesachim 99b
Until he reclines in the manner of free men, as a commemoration of freedom, on a couch and at the table.
Why is reclining a sign of freedom? In Mishnaic times, reclining at a meal was a symbol of status and was not customary for slaves. Slave quarters were unlikely to be furnished with the requisite couches. Furthermore, a slave would be hard-pressed to relax enough at a meal to eat it reclining, at liberty.
The Talmud stipulates that one must maintain a reclining position while eating matza and drinking all four cups. It then goes on to discuss whether married women must recline:
פסחים קח.
איתמר: מצה – צריך הסיבה, מרור – אין צריך הסיבה. יין…אידי ואידי בעו הסיבה…אשה אצל בעלה – לא בעיא הסיבה, ואם אשה חשובה היא – צריכה הסיבה. בן אצל אביו – בעי הסיבה. איבעיא להו: תלמיד אצל רבו מאי?
Pesachim 108a
It was stated: Matza requires reclining, maror does not require reclining. Wine…both [the first and second pair of cups] require reclining…A woman in the presence of her husband does not need to recline, and if she is an important woman, she needs to recline. A son in the presence of his father needs to recline. It was asked of them: What about a disciple in the presence of his master?
Why should a woman’s reclining be called into question? Rav Achai Ga’on suggests that reclining simply was not done by the average woman:1
שאילתות דרב אחאי פרשת צו שאילתא עז
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה מאי טעמא לאו דירכא דנשי למזגא. ואי אשה חשובה היא צריכה הסיבה
She'iltot of Rav Achai Tzav 77
A woman does not need to recline. What is the reason? It is not the manner of women to lean over. If she is an important woman, she needs to recline.
On this reading, reclining was a typically male signifier of freedom, only taken up by a specific subset of women. Rav Achai Ga’on does not explain, though, why the Talmud introduces the qualifier that it is a woman “with her husband” who does not recline.
The passage goes on to discuss other hierarchical relationships – father and son, master and disciple. In this context, Rashbam explains the reference to a married woman as based on a particularly hierarchical understanding of the marital relationship:
רשב”ם פסחים קח.
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה. מפני אימת בעלה וכפופה לו
Rashbam Pesachim 108a
A woman does not need to recline, for she is in awe of her husband and submissive to him
If a woman were fearful of and fully submissive to her husband, it would be difficult for her to physically inhabit a posture of freedom. Meiri takes this line of thought a step further, noting that the important woman singled out by the Talmud as obligated in reclining, is someone who experiences a different, less servile, marital relationship:
בית הבחירה למאירי פסחים קח.
…שאין חירות לאשה אצל בעלה ואם אשה חשובה היא צריכה הסבה שאין שפחות באישות שלה…
Me'iri, Beit Ha-bechira Pesachim 108a
A woman has no freedom in her husband’s presence, and if she is an important woman she needs to recline because there is no servility in her marital relationship
Perhaps in this light we can understand Mordechai’s assertion that in his era (the 13th century) all women had become important:
מרדכי פסחים תוספת מערבי פסחים תריא
דכולהו נשים דידן חשובות נינהו וצריכות הסיבה:
Mordechai, Addition to Arvei Pesachim 611
For all our women are important and need to recline.
It is hard to say that Mordechai means that the nature of women had changed. Rather, he may intend that the marital relationship of his era, or that women’s status in general, was different from what it had been.
Rabbeinu Mano’ach of 13th century Provence adds more possibilities for what makes a woman important and why that should matter:
ספר המנוחה הלכות חמץ ומצה ז:ח
…ואם אשה חשובה היא כלומר שאין לה בעל והיא גברת הבית צריכה הסיבה א”נ [=אי נמי] שהיא חשובה בפני ה’ אשה יראת השם בת גדולי הדור כוללת שבחי אשת חיל וזאת האשה אם נמנע מציאותה אף על פי שיש לה בעל צריכה הסיבה א”נ [=אי נמי] יש לפרש אינה צריכה הסיבה לפי שהיא טרודה בתיקון המאכל והכנתו פטרוה מהסבה כמו שפטרוה ממצות עשה שהזמן גרמא אבל אשה חשובה שיש לה עבדים ושפחות הטורדים בעניני המאכל והיא יושבת בקתדרה צריכה הסיבה.
Sefer Ha-menucha Chametz U-matza 7:8
If she is an important woman, that is to say, she does not have a husband and she is the mistress of the house, she needs to recline. Or possibly, that she is important before God, a God-fearing woman, daughter of great religious personalities who encompasses the praises of Eishet Chayil, and this woman, though she is hard to find, needs to recline even if she has a husband. Or possibly, one can explain that she does not need to recline because since she is busy with preparing and setting up the food, they exempted her from reclining as they exempted her from positive time-bound commandments, but an important woman with servants and maids, who are busy with the matters of food while she sits in an armchair, needs to recline.
Two of his explanations depend on circumstance. An important woman may be a widow, who has gained importance as head of her household. Alternatively, she may be wealthy, and have servants to allow her to recline at liberty rather than busy herself with seder preparations.
His second rationale differs in being more intrinsic. A woman is important because God views her as such by dint of her own religious standing and fear of Heaven. A true woman of valor must recline.
Are all women today “important”? What does that mean for us?
Specific halachot, most notably reclining on leil ha-seder, depend on whether a person is considered important.
Early halachic authorities offer a variety of explanations for why a woman would be called important. These include that she has a non-servile relationship with her husband, that she may be head of her household, that she may be a woman of means, or that she has a particularly high religious standing.
In the thirteenth century, Mordechai wrote that “all our women are considered important.” What had changed?
Rav Moshe Feinstein rejects the idea that women of thirteenth century Ashkenaz had been suddenly transformed. Rather, men came to understand that they had nothing to lord over women, and women came to understand their importance to their husbands. A new depth of understanding about gender was reached at this stage.
שו”ת אגרות משה אורח חיים ה:כ
… שהכירו במשך הזמן שאין להאינשי במה להתגאות נגד נשותיהן, והנשי הכירו צורך הגדול שיש להאינשי בהן. והמיעוט חשובות שהיו בכל הזמנים היו נשי כאלו שהכירו צורך הבעל בהן, כמו שיש להו צורך בבעליהן, והכירו שגם בעליהן יודעין זה דהסיבה הא אין זה דבר חדש, אלא תיקנו דמעשה אכילתו ושתייתו שחייבה תורה להכיר החירות והגאולה, יהיה באופן שיותר יש בו היכר החירות.
Iggerot Moshe OC 5:20
…That they recognized over time that men have nothing to lord over their wives, and the women recognized the great need men have for them. And the minority of important women that existed in all eras were women like this, who recognized their husbands’ need for them, just as they need their husbands, and recognized that their husbands also know this. Reclining is not a new innovation, but [the sages] established that one’s act of eating and drinking ordained by the Torah to recognize freedom and redemption, should be in a manner that more clearly signifies freedom.
Our sages recognized that a woman could be considered important, free from the social disadvantages that many women faced. As women’s overall social standing improved, early halachic authorities were quick to recognize it, and its halachic implications.
What is the practical halacha about women reclining? Shulchan Aruch rules like the Talmud. Rema adds that, although all women are important, women do not recline in practice, relying on the viewpoint that this is no longer how free people eat.
שולחן ערוך אורח חיים הלכות פסח תעב:ד
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה אלא א”כ [=אם כן] היא חשובה. הגה: וכל הנשים שלנו מיקרי חשובות (מרדכי ריש פ’ ע”פ ורבינו ירוחם), אך לא נהגו להסב כי סמכו על דברי ראבי”ה דכתב דבזמן הזה אין להסב.
Shulchan Aruch OC 472:4
A woman does not need to recline unless she is important. Rema: All our women are called important, but are not accustomed to recline because they rely on the words of Ra’aviyah, who wrote that nowadays one should not recline.2
Note that neither Shulchan Aruch nor Rema discourage women from reclining. That makes sense because, if reclining while fulfilling the mitzvot of the seder is a mitzva for men, it can be seen at least as a stringency for women.
Women with a family tradition of women not reclining may choose to continue that tradition. Women without a firm family practice, and even those that have one, may consider reclining as a reflection of women’s importance and a desire to discharge all opinions about how best to fulfill the obligations of eating matza and drinking the four cups.
כף החיים תע”ב:כח
דהמנהג בין הספרדים להיסב…נראה דגם בק”ק [=בקהילות הקדושים] האשכנזים שנהגו הנשים שלא להיסב המחמירה להיסב תע”ב [=תבא עליה ברכה] כיון שאינו אלא דנהגו להקל. ולכן כיון שהם חשובות כנז[כר] טוב לצאת אליבא דכו”ע [=דכולי עלמא].
Kaf Ha-chayyim 472:28
The custom among Sefardim is to recline… it seems that also in the holy communities of Ashkenazim where the women had the practice not to recline, that a woman who is stringent and reclines should merit a blessing, since it is merely a custom to be lenient. Therefore, since they are important, as mentioned, it is good to fulfil the mitzva according to all opinions.
Telling the Story
The Torah commands telling over the Pesach story, sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim, on leil ha-seder:
שמות פרק יג:ח
וְהִגַּדְתָּ לְבִנְךָ בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא לֵאמֹר בַּעֲבוּר זֶה עָשָׂה ה’ לִי בְּצֵאתִי מִמִּצְרָיִם:
Shemot 13:8
You shall tell your son on that day saying: it is on account of that which God did for me when I went out of Egypt.
While the verse specifies telling one’s child, perhaps just one’s son, the obligation is understood to apply more broadly than that.3
The essential components of the story are Pesach, Matza, and Maror, which recount the Exodus in miniature: the bitterness of slavery, God’s sparing us from the fate of the Egyptians, and eating the bread of redemption:
משנה פסחים י:ה
רבן גמליאל היה אומר כל שלא אמר שלשה דברים אלו בפסח לא יצא ידי חובתו ואלו הן פסח מצה ומרור פסח על שום שפסח המקום על בתי אבותינו במצרים מצה על שום שנגאלו אבותינו במצרים מרור על שום שמררו המצריים את חיי אבותינו במצרים
Mishna Pesachim 10:5
Rabban Gamliel would say: Whoever did not say these three things on Pesach has not fulfilled his obligation, and they are these: Pesach, Matza, and Maror. Pesach, because God skipped over the houses of our ancestors in Egypt. Matza, because our ancestors were redeemed in Egypt. Maror, because the Egyptians embittered the lives of our ancestors in Egypt.
Food and narrative are deeply intertwined in the seder experience. Matza plays an essential role in telling the story. The Talmud expands on the Torah’s description of it as “lechem oni” “the bread of affliction” with a play on words:
פסחים לו.
לחם עני – לחם שעונין עליו דברים הרבה
Pesachim 36a
Lechem oni – bread upon which we recite (“onin”) many words
The matza is not only important for telling the story; telling the story might be essential for proper fulfillment of the mitzva to eat matza. Ramban even suggests that the mitzva of eating is the one that cannot be properly fulfilled without mentioning Pesach, Matza, and Maror.
מלחמת ה’ ברכות ב: (בדפי הרי”ף)
אלא ודאי מאי לא יצא ידי חובתו שלא קיים מצוה כהלכה … אבל לחזור ולקרות אין לנו ושנינו כיוצא בה כל שלא אמר ג’ דברים אלו בפסח לא יצא ידי חובתו ולא שיהא צריך לחזור ולאכול פסח מצה ומרור…
Milchemet Hashem Berachot 2:2 (Rif Pagination)
But certainly, what is “he has not fulfilled his obligation”? That he did not fulfil the mitzva according to halacha… But he does not need to go back and read. And similarly, we learn “whoever did not say these three things on Pesach has not fulfilled his obligation,” but not that he needs to go back and eat Pesach, Matza, and Maror…
Rachel Sharansky Danziger reflects on how the haggada compels each of us to personally retell and re-experience the Exodus:4
Rachel Sharansky Danziger, My Own Private Haggadah, Tablet
…the Haggadah doesn’t even give us the benefit of a discernible story arc. Since we must rely on ourselves to give the evening any form of coherence, we are forced to draw upon resources that lie beyond the bounds of the text itself, such as our familiarity with the Exodus story in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy, and, even more importantly, our own concerns, experiences, and ideas. This process forces us to act as authors and interpreters and recreate the Exodus story in our own image….Perhaps when the authors of the Haggadah told us to see ourselves as if we came out of Egypt, they meant something more than envisioning ourselves wearing tunics, marching out of Egypt with matzos in our sacks. Perhaps they meant that we should take this opportunity to experience what it means to become the authors of our own story. By liberating us from the mindset of a passive audience, the Haggadah frees us to taste self-determination, in an echo of the very event which it so circuitously explores.
Women Reciting Maggid
Are women obligated to tell the Pesach story?
Halachic consensus is that women are. Shulchan Aruch seems to suggest that women are obligated when he refers to “all the mitzvot” of leil ha-seder:
שולחן ערוך או”ח תעב:יד
גם הנשים חייבות בארבע כוסות ובכל מצות הנוהגות באותו לילה
Shulchan Aruch 472:14
Women, too, are obligated in the four cups and in all the mitzvot that are practiced on that [seder] night.
As we saw earlier, Tur’s language is similar. Mishna Berura, for one, does take this halacha to refer to sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim:
משנה ברורה תעב:מה
מצות הנוהגות וכו’ – כגון מצה ומרור ואמירת הגדה:
Mishna Berura 472:45
The mitzvot that are practiced – such as matza and maror and reciting the haggada
Is this obligation on a Torah level or rabbinic? This question might have practical ramifications: if the obligation is only rabbinic, a woman cannot discharge a man’s obligation when reciting parts of the Seder.5
Let’s look at the two main positions regarding the level of obligation, and at the rationales behind them:
I. Rabbinic Obligation: As we saw in Seder I, Rav Yosef Karo attributes his view to the principle of af hen.
בית יוסף אורח חיים תעב:כה
ואחד אנשים ואחד נשים חייבים בהם. שם (קח.) נשים חייבות בד’ כוסות שאף הן היו באותו הנס ומטעם זה צריך לומר שהן חייבות בכל מצות הנוהגות באותו הלילה.
Beit Yosef OC 472:25
Both men and women are obligated in them [the four cups]. Women are obligated in the four cups because of inclusion in the miracle, and for this reason one must say that women are obligated in all the mitzvot practiced on that [seder] night.
This application of af hen makes sense, since maggid is indeed a commemoration of the miracle. Furthermore, if Tosafot understand women as obligated in Hallel at the seder because we recite it over the second and fourth cups, in which women are obligated, so, too, women should be obligated in maggid recited over the second cup.6
We also saw earlier that Tosafot presented two different ways to understand af hen, one of which limited it to rabbinic commandments. Following this view, Minchat Chinuch articulates the position that women have a rabbinic level obligation in sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim by virtue of af hen:
מנחת חינוך מצוה כא:ו
…ולו’ [ולומר] הטעם שנשים היו ג”כ [=גם כן] באותו הנס כמו מ”מ [=מקרא מגילה] וד’ כוסות כבר הוכיחו התוס[פות] דד”ז [=דדבר זה] אינו אלא דרבנן בכ”מ [בכל מקרה]… בסיפור י”מ [=יציאת מצרים] ובאמת כל שאינו מחויב בדבר אין מוציא …וגם מדרבנן בודאי נשים חייבות דחייבי[ן] בד’ כוסות …
Minchat Chinuch 21:6
Regarding the reason that women were also in that miracle, as with megilla reading and the four cups, Tosafot already demonstrated that this only works on a rabbinic level in any case…with telling the story of the Exodus, and really anyone who is not obligated in something cannot fulfill another’s obligation… and also, women are certainly obligated on a rabbinic level, since they are obligated in the four cups…
II. Torah Obligation Sefer Ha-chinuch asserts that women are fully obligated in the Torah-level commandment of sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim:
ספר החינוך מצוה כא
לספר בענין יציאת מצרים בליל חמשה עשר בניסן כל אחד כפי צחות לשונו, ולהלל ולשבח השם יתברך על כל הנסים שעשה לנו שם, שנאמר [שמות י”ג, ח’] “והגדת לבנך” וגו’. וכבר פירשו חכמים דמצות הגדה זו היא בליל חמשה עשר בניסן בשעת אכילת מצה, ומה שאמר הכתוב לבנך, דלאו דוקא בנו, אלא אפילו עם כל בריה….ונוהגת בזכרים ונקבות, בכל מקום ובכל זמן. ועובר עליה ביטל עשה.
Sefer Ha-chinuch Mitzva 21
To tell about the Exodus from Egypt on the night of 15 Nissan, everyone according to his skill in speaking, and to praise and glorify God for all the miracles that he performed for us there, as it is said, “you shall tell your son.” The sages already explained that this mitzva of telling is on the night of 15 Nissan at the time of eating matza, and when the verse says “your son,” it doesn’t mean specifically his son, but could even be anyone…and it applies to males and females, in every place and at every time. Violation is the negation of a positive commandment.
Unfortunately, Sefer Ha-chinuch does not lay out his rationale for saying women are obligated in the mitzva. Since he often draws his analyses from Rambam, it is natural to look there for an answer. Rambam, however, is at best enigmatic on the subject. On the one hand, he does not mention sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim as a positive time-bound mitzva in which women are obligated on Pesach:7
רמב”ם הלכות עבודה זרה יב:ג
…וכל מצות עשה שהיא מזמן לזמן ואינה תדירה נשים פטורות חוץ מקידוש היום ואכילת מצה בלילי הפסח ואכילת הפסח ושחיטתו והקהל ושמחה שהנשים חייבות.
Rambam, Laws of Avoda Zara 12:3
All positive commandments that are from time to time and not constant, women are exempt, except for kiddush and eating matza on Pesach night and eating the korban Pesach and sacrificing it and hak’hel and joy [on festivals], in which women are obligated.
On the other hand, he also does not list the mitzva of sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim, Mitzva 157, in his summary list in Sefer Ha-mitzvot of mitzvot from which women are exempt.8
Why would one say that women are obligated in this mitzva on a Torah level?
As part of a responsum ruling that women may recite the haggada on behalf of men, Iggerot Moshe raises two possibilities:
1. Perhaps the principle obligating women to eat matza extends to maggid. This stands to reason, since matza and the mitzva of telling the story are so closely related. According to this view, af hen is only relevant for the four cups, where we might have thought our sages would be lenient because the four cups are only obligatory on a rabbinic level.
2. Alternatively, the principle of af hen, as understood by Beit Yosef, may obligate women in the mitzva on a Torah level.
שו”ת אגרות משה אורח חיים ה כ:ג
אם אשה יכולה להוציא איש ידי חובת ההגדה…הנה פשוט לכאורה דמאחר שהאשה נמי חייבת באמירת הגדה כאנשים, דבכל חיובי פסח האשה חייבת מהיקשא דכל שישנו באכילת חמץ ישנו באכילת מצה, שהוא גם לכל מ”ע [מצות עשה] דאיכא בפסח מדאורייתא. והא דהוצרך ריב”ל [=רבי יהושע בן לוי] בפסחים דף ק”ח ע”א, על מה שחייבות נשים בד’ כוסות, לטעם שאף הן היו באותו הנס, הוא משום דכיוון דהוא רק מדרבנן היה מקום לומר דכיוון דהוא זמן גרמא, שהתורה הקלה להן בשאר מצוות, לא תיקנו להן רבנן, אף בפסח שחייבות במ”ע [=במצוות עשה] שמן התורה. לכן אמר ריב”ל [=רבי יהושע בן לוי] שגם לנשים תיקנו, מטעם שאף הן היו באותו הנס….אבל עיין בב”י [=בבית יוסף], שכתב נשים חייבות בד’ כוסות שאף הן היו באותו הנס, ומטעם זה צריך לומר שהן חייבות בכל מצוות הנוהגות בלילה. והוא דלא כתוס[פות] דסברי שלעניין מ”ע [מצות עשה] דאורייתא לא אמרינן טעם זה, כדהוכיחו מסוכה, אלא סובר הב”י [=הבית יוסף] דגם למ”ע [=למצות עשה] דאורייתא, נמי אמרינן טעם זה. ..
Iggerot Moshe OC V 2:3
Can a woman fulfil a man’s obligation in the haggada?… It seems simple that, since a woman is also obligated in reciting the haggada like men, because a woman is obligated in all the obligations of Pesach based on an analogy [hekesh], that whoever is obligated in [the prohibition against] eating chametz is obligated in eating matza, which also applies to all positive Torah-level commandments of Pesach. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi (Pesachim 108a) needed the reason that they also were included in the miracle for women’s obligation in the four cups because, since it is only rabbinic, there is room to say that since it is time-bound, with which the Torah was lenient for women with other mitzvot, the Rabbis did not institute it for them, even on Pesach when they are obligated in Torah-level positive commandments. Therefore, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said that they established it for women as well, for the reason of inclusion in the miracle…But see Beit Yosef, who wrote that women are obligated in the four cups because of inclusion in the miracle, and for this reason one must say that they are obligated in all the mitzvot practiced that night. This is not in accordance with Tosafot, who thought that this reason does not apply to positive Torah-level mitzvot, as they proved from sukka, but Beit Yosef thinks that this reason also applies to positive Torah-level mitzvot.
Rav Ovadya Yosef, too, maintained that women are obligated in sippur yetzi’at Mitzrayim on a Torah level:
שו”ת יחוה דעת ב:סה
גם הנשים חייבות בהגדה ובסיפור יציאת מצרים בליל פסח, מן התורה, ויכולות להוציא את האנשים ידי חובתם.
Yechaveh Da'at II:65
Women are also obligated in the haggada and in telling the story of the Exodus on Pesach night, from the Torah, and can fulfil men’s obligations.
Familial customs differ regarding whether all Seder attendees or only a leader recite each section. According to Rav Moshe Feinstein and Rav Ovadya Yosef, a woman would not be limited in the role she could play. (For more on women fulfilling others’ obligations in practice, see here.)
In Practice
It can be tricky even for important women to be present for all of maggid, whether because of being involved with children or with checking on and laying out the meal.
Chayyei Adam addresses the case in which a Jewish female servant is very busy seder night, presenting an absolute minimum of what she can hear of maggid.
חיי אדם חלק ב-ג (הלכות שבת ומועדים) כלל קל
גם נשים חייבות בכל המצוות ובאמירת הגדה. ולכן חיוב שגם המשרתת תשב אצל השולחן ותשמע כל הגדה. ואם צריכה לצאת לחוץ לבשל, על כל פנים מחויבת לשמוע הקידוש, ולכשיגיע לר’ גמליאל אומר כל שלא כו’, תכנוס ותשמע עד לאחר שתיית כוס ב’, שהרי מי שלא אמר ג’ דברים הללו, לא יצא. ונוהגין שגם קוראין אותם שתשמע העשר מכות שהביא על המצרים, כדי להגיד להם כמה נסים עשה הקדוש ברוך הוא בשביל ישראל.
Chayyei Adam Kelal 130
Women are also obligated in all the mitzvot and in reciting the haggada. Therefore, the maid must also sit at the table and hear the whole haggada. If she needs to go out to cook, she is at least obligated to hear kiddush, and when he reaches “Rabban Gamliel says, whoever did not…,” she should come in and listen until after the drinking of the second cup, for whoever did not say these three things, has not fulfilled his obligation. Our practice is also to call them to hear the ten plagues that He brought upon Egypt, in order to tell them how many miracles the Holy One, blessed be He, did for Israel.
In addition to mentioning sections of maggid we would expect, Chayyei Adam singles out hearing the ten plagues. He explains that reciting the plagues emphasizes the miracles God performed for Israel. What is he getting at? Perhaps he means to suggest that this mitzva is so basic and essential to our understanding of Torah, and ourselves as Jews that it’s crucial for women to participate as much as possible in it in a way that will maximize our awareness of what God has done for us.
How can someone balance home responsibilities with the mitzva of maggid?
It can be hard to be present for the entire mitzva of maggid while also laying out a meal or tending to young children or others who need care. Here are some ideas for making it work:
1. As much as possible, enlist others in advance to shoulder these responsibilities together with you.
2. Try to plan a menu that will not require you to do anything (or almost anything) between kiddush and eating. Also, it is helpful to have food available that can be offered to kids easily, with no preparation involved.
3. Arrange with someone to lead a discussion, activity, or song when you have to leave the table, so that you don’t miss essential parts of the Seder.
4. If breastfeeding, try to set up a place or way to nurse comfortably within earshot of the Seder. If there are young children to tend to, set up resting spots near the table where they can lie down and “rest” when tired without needing to be formally put to bed. If kids are preschool age or older, do everything you can to involve them in the Seder, which is, after all, a central element of the mitzva of maggid.
Putting the time and thought into troubleshooting in advance can make a big difference in creating a rhythm that will work for you even if you can’t sit or recline all night long.
In practice, in maggid, women should make every effort to hear or read:
- Ma Nishtana
- Avadim hayyinu
- The ten plagues
- The paragraphs explaining Pesach, matza and maror
- The beginning of Hallel.
Notes
ראבי”ה חלק ב – מסכת פסחים סימן תקכה
ובזמן הזה …שאין רגילות בני חורין להסב ישב כדרכו
Ra’aviyah part II, Pesachim 525
Nowadays, …when free people are not accustomed to recline, one should sit normally.
6. Rema may understand him in this way, when he comments on the requirement to make the haggada understood to women at the table. Mishna Berura takes this position. Alternatively, Rema may intend that one does not fulfill the obligation of telling the story without taking pains to make it understood:
שולחן ערוך אורח חיים תעג:ו
…הגה: ויאמרו בלשון שמבינים הנשים והקטנים, או יפרש להם הענין וכן עשה ר”י מלונדרי כל ההגדה בלשון לע”ז, כדי שיבינו הנשים והקטנים.
Shulchan Aruch OC 473:6
Rema: They should recite it in a language that the women and children understand, or explain the meaning to them, and thus Ri of London did the entire haggada in the vernacular, so that the women and children would understand.
משנה ברורה סימן תעג ס”ק סד
כדי שיבינו הנשים – שהרי גם נשים חייבות במצות הלילה ובאמירת הגדה
Mishna Berura 473:64
So that the women would understand – for women are also obligated in the mitzvot of the night and in reciting the haggada
ספר המצוות לרמב”ם מצות עשה קנז
והמצוה הקנ”ז היא שצונו לספר ביציאת מצרים בליל חמשה עשר בניסן בתחלת הלילה כפי צחות לשון המספר.
Rambam Sefer Ha-mitzvot 157
The 157th mitzva is that He commanded us to tell the story of the Exodus on the night of 15 Nissan, at the beginning of the night, according to the teller’s skill in speaking.
ספר המצוות לרמב”ם סיום מצוות עשה
וכשתסתכל באלו הרמ”ח מצות עשה תמצא המצות ההכרחיות מהם ששים מצות…… והקנ”ה והקנ”ו והקנ”ז והקנ”ח והקנ”ט והק”ס. והמאה וששים ואחת ואין הנשים חייבות בה. … מאלו הששים מצות ההכרחיות יש מהן שש וארבעים מצות שהנשים חייבות בהן גם כן וארבע עשרה מצות מהן שאין הנשים חייבות בהן. …
Rambam Sefer Ha-Mitzvot, Conclusion of Positive Commandments
When you look at these 248 positive commandments, you find 60 essential mitzvot….and the 155th, 156th, 157th, 158th, 159th, and 160th. And the 161st, women are not obligated in… Of these 60 essential mitzvot, women are obligated in 46 of them and are not obligated in 14 of them…
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Reclining
משנה פסחים י:א
ואפילו עני שבישראל לא יאכל עד שיסב
Mishna Pesachim 10:1
Even a poor person in Israel may not eat until he reclines
רש”י פסחים צט:
עד שיסב כדרך בני חורין, זכר לחירות, במטה ועל השלחן.
Rashi Pesachim 99b
Until he reclines in the manner of free men, as a commemoration of freedom, on a couch and at the table.
פסחים קח.
איתמר: מצה – צריך הסיבה, מרור – אין צריך הסיבה. יין…אידי ואידי בעו הסיבה…אשה אצל בעלה – לא בעיא הסיבה, ואם אשה חשובה היא – צריכה הסיבה. בן אצל אביו – בעי הסיבה. איבעיא להו: תלמיד אצל רבו מאי?
Pesachim 108a
It was stated: Matza requires reclining, maror does not require reclining. Wine…both [the first and second pair of cups] require reclining…A woman in the presence of her husband does not need to recline, and if she is an important woman, she needs to recline. A son in the presence of his father needs to recline. It was asked of them: What about a disciple in the presence of his master?
שאילתות דרב אחאי פרשת צו שאילתא עז
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה מאי טעמא לאו דירכא דנשי למזגא. ואי אשה חשובה היא צריכה הסיבה
She'iltot of Rav Achai Tzav 77
A woman does not need to recline. What is the reason? It is not the manner of women to lean over. If she is an important woman, she needs to recline.
רשב”ם פסחים קח.
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה. מפני אימת בעלה וכפופה לו
Rashbam Pesachim 108a
A woman does not need to recline, for she is in awe of her husband and submissive to him
בית הבחירה למאירי פסחים קח.
…שאין חירות לאשה אצל בעלה ואם אשה חשובה היא צריכה הסבה שאין שפחות באישות שלה…
Me'iri, Beit Ha-bechira Pesachim 108a
A woman has no freedom in her husband’s presence, and if she is an important woman she needs to recline because there is no servility in her marital relationship
מרדכי פסחים תוספת מערבי פסחים תריא
דכולהו נשים דידן חשובות נינהו וצריכות הסיבה:
Mordechai, Addition to Arvei Pesachim 611
For all our women are important and need to recline.
ספר המנוחה הלכות חמץ ומצה ז:ח
…ואם אשה חשובה היא כלומר שאין לה בעל והיא גברת הבית צריכה הסיבה א”נ [=אי נמי] שהיא חשובה בפני ה’ אשה יראת השם בת גדולי הדור כוללת שבחי אשת חיל וזאת האשה אם נמנע מציאותה אף על פי שיש לה בעל צריכה הסיבה א”נ [=אי נמי] יש לפרש אינה צריכה הסיבה לפי שהיא טרודה בתיקון המאכל והכנתו פטרוה מהסבה כמו שפטרוה ממצות עשה שהזמן גרמא אבל אשה חשובה שיש לה עבדים ושפחות הטורדים בעניני המאכל והיא יושבת בקתדרה צריכה הסיבה.
Sefer Ha-menucha Chametz U-matza 7:8
If she is an important woman, that is to say, she does not have a husband and she is the mistress of the house, she needs to recline. Or possibly, that she is important before God, a God-fearing woman, daughter of great religious personalities who encompasses the praises of Eishet Chayil, and this woman, though she is hard to find, needs to recline even if she has a husband. Or possibly, one can explain that she does not need to recline because since she is busy with preparing and setting up the food, they exempted her from reclining as they exempted her from positive time-bound commandments, but an important woman with servants and maids, who are busy with the matters of food while she sits in an armchair, needs to recline.
שו”ת אגרות משה אורח חיים ה:כ
… שהכירו במשך הזמן שאין להאינשי במה להתגאות נגד נשותיהן, והנשי הכירו צורך הגדול שיש להאינשי בהן. והמיעוט חשובות שהיו בכל הזמנים היו נשי כאלו שהכירו צורך הבעל בהן, כמו שיש להו צורך בבעליהן, והכירו שגם בעליהן יודעין זה דהסיבה הא אין זה דבר חדש, אלא תיקנו דמעשה אכילתו ושתייתו שחייבה תורה להכיר החירות והגאולה, יהיה באופן שיותר יש בו היכר החירות.
Iggerot Moshe OC 5:20
…That they recognized over time that men have nothing to lord over their wives, and the women recognized the great need men have for them. And the minority of important women that existed in all eras were women like this, who recognized their husbands’ need for them, just as they need their husbands, and recognized that their husbands also know this. Reclining is not a new innovation, but [the sages] established that one’s act of eating and drinking ordained by the Torah to recognize freedom and redemption, should be in a manner that more clearly signifies freedom.
שולחן ערוך אורח חיים הלכות פסח תעב:ד
אשה אינה צריכה הסיבה אלא א”כ [=אם כן] היא חשובה. הגה: וכל הנשים שלנו מיקרי חשובות (מרדכי ריש פ’ ע”פ ורבינו ירוחם), אך לא נהגו להסב כי סמכו על דברי ראבי”ה דכתב דבזמן הזה אין להסב.
Shulchan Aruch OC 472:4
A woman does not need to recline unless she is important. Rema: All our women are called important, but are not accustomed to recline because they rely on the words of Ra’aviyah, who wrote that nowadays one should not recline.2
כף החיים תע”ב:כח
דהמנהג בין הספרדים להיסב…נראה דגם בק”ק [=בקהילות הקדושים] האשכנזים שנהגו הנשים שלא להיסב המחמירה להיסב תע”ב [=תבא עליה ברכה] כיון שאינו אלא דנהגו להקל. ולכן כיון שהם חשובות כנז[כר] טוב לצאת אליבא דכו”ע [=דכולי עלמא].
Kaf Ha-chayyim 472:28
The custom among Sefardim is to recline… it seems that also in the holy communities of Ashkenazim where the women had the practice not to recline, that a woman who is stringent and reclines should merit a blessing, since it is merely a custom to be lenient. Therefore, since they are important, as mentioned, it is good to fulfil the mitzva according to all opinions.
Telling the Story
שמות פרק יג:ח
וְהִגַּדְתָּ לְבִנְךָ בַּיּוֹם הַהוּא לֵאמֹר בַּעֲבוּר זֶה עָשָׂה ה’ לִי בְּצֵאתִי מִמִּצְרָיִם:
Shemot 13:8
You shall tell your son on that day saying: it is on account of that which God did for me when I went out of Egypt.
משנה פסחים י:ה
רבן גמליאל היה אומר כל שלא אמר שלשה דברים אלו בפסח לא יצא ידי חובתו ואלו הן פסח מצה ומרור פסח על שום שפסח המקום על בתי אבותינו במצרים מצה על שום שנגאלו אבותינו במצרים מרור על שום שמררו המצריים את חיי אבותינו במצרים
Mishna Pesachim 10:5
Rabban Gamliel would say: Whoever did not say these three things on Pesach has not fulfilled his obligation, and they are these: Pesach, Matza, and Maror. Pesach, because God skipped over the houses of our ancestors in Egypt. Matza, because our ancestors were redeemed in Egypt. Maror, because the Egyptians embittered the lives of our ancestors in Egypt.
פסחים לו.
לחם עני – לחם שעונין עליו דברים הרבה
Pesachim 36a
Lechem oni – bread upon which we recite (“onin”) many words
מלחמת ה’ ברכות ב: (בדפי הרי”ף)
אלא ודאי מאי לא יצא ידי חובתו שלא קיים מצוה כהלכה … אבל לחזור ולקרות אין לנו ושנינו כיוצא בה כל שלא אמר ג’ דברים אלו בפסח לא יצא ידי חובתו ולא שיהא צריך לחזור ולאכול פסח מצה ומרור…
Milchemet Hashem Berachot 2:2 (Rif Pagination)
But certainly, what is “he has not fulfilled his obligation”? That he did not fulfil the mitzva according to halacha… But he does not need to go back and read. And similarly, we learn “whoever did not say these three things on Pesach has not fulfilled his obligation,” but not that he needs to go back and eat Pesach, Matza, and Maror…
Rachel Sharansky Danziger, My Own Private Haggadah, Tablet
…the Haggadah doesn’t even give us the benefit of a discernible story arc. Since we must rely on ourselves to give the evening any form of coherence, we are forced to draw upon resources that lie beyond the bounds of the text itself, such as our familiarity with the Exodus story in the books of Exodus and Deuteronomy, and, even more importantly, our own concerns, experiences, and ideas. This process forces us to act as authors and interpreters and recreate the Exodus story in our own image….Perhaps when the authors of the Haggadah told us to see ourselves as if we came out of Egypt, they meant something more than envisioning ourselves wearing tunics, marching out of Egypt with matzos in our sacks. Perhaps they meant that we should take this opportunity to experience what it means to become the authors of our own story. By liberating us from the mindset of a passive audience, the Haggadah frees us to taste self-determination, in an echo of the very event which it so circuitously explores.
Women Reciting Maggid
שולחן ערוך או”ח תעב:יד
גם הנשים חייבות בארבע כוסות ובכל מצות הנוהגות באותו לילה
Shulchan Aruch 472:14
Women, too, are obligated in the four cups and in all the mitzvot that are practiced on that [seder] night.
משנה ברורה תעב:מה
מצות הנוהגות וכו’ – כגון מצה ומרור ואמירת הגדה:
Mishna Berura 472:45
The mitzvot that are practiced – such as matza and maror and reciting the haggada
בית יוסף אורח חיים תעב:כה
ואחד אנשים ואחד נשים חייבים בהם. שם (קח.) נשים חייבות בד’ כוסות שאף הן היו באותו הנס ומטעם זה צריך לומר שהן חייבות בכל מצות הנוהגות באותו הלילה.
Beit Yosef OC 472:25
Both men and women are obligated in them [the four cups]. Women are obligated in the four cups because of inclusion in the miracle, and for this reason one must say that women are obligated in all the mitzvot practiced on that [seder] night.
מנחת חינוך מצוה כא:ו
…ולו’ [ולומר] הטעם שנשים היו ג”כ [=גם כן] באותו הנס כמו מ”מ [=מקרא מגילה] וד’ כוסות כבר הוכיחו התוס[פות] דד”ז [=דדבר זה] אינו אלא דרבנן בכ”מ [בכל מקרה]… בסיפור י”מ [=יציאת מצרים] ובאמת כל שאינו מחויב בדבר אין מוציא …וגם מדרבנן בודאי נשים חייבות דחייבי[ן] בד’ כוסות …
Minchat Chinuch 21:6
Regarding the reason that women were also in that miracle, as with megilla reading and the four cups, Tosafot already demonstrated that this only works on a rabbinic level in any case…with telling the story of the Exodus, and really anyone who is not obligated in something cannot fulfill another’s obligation… and also, women are certainly obligated on a rabbinic level, since they are obligated in the four cups…
ספר החינוך מצוה כא
לספר בענין יציאת מצרים בליל חמשה עשר בניסן כל אחד כפי צחות לשונו, ולהלל ולשבח השם יתברך על כל הנסים שעשה לנו שם, שנאמר [שמות י”ג, ח’] “והגדת לבנך” וגו’. וכבר פירשו חכמים דמצות הגדה זו היא בליל חמשה עשר בניסן בשעת אכילת מצה, ומה שאמר הכתוב לבנך, דלאו דוקא בנו, אלא אפילו עם כל בריה….ונוהגת בזכרים ונקבות, בכל מקום ובכל זמן. ועובר עליה ביטל עשה.
Sefer Ha-chinuch Mitzva 21
To tell about the Exodus from Egypt on the night of 15 Nissan, everyone according to his skill in speaking, and to praise and glorify God for all the miracles that he performed for us there, as it is said, “you shall tell your son.” The sages already explained that this mitzva of telling is on the night of 15 Nissan at the time of eating matza, and when the verse says “your son,” it doesn’t mean specifically his son, but could even be anyone…and it applies to males and females, in every place and at every time. Violation is the negation of a positive commandment.
רמב”ם הלכות עבודה זרה יב:ג
…וכל מצות עשה שהיא מזמן לזמן ואינה תדירה נשים פטורות חוץ מקידוש היום ואכילת מצה בלילי הפסח ואכילת הפסח ושחיטתו והקהל ושמחה שהנשים חייבות.
Rambam, Laws of Avoda Zara 12:3
All positive commandments that are from time to time and not constant, women are exempt, except for kiddush and eating matza on Pesach night and eating the korban Pesach and sacrificing it and hak’hel and joy [on festivals], in which women are obligated.
שו”ת אגרות משה אורח חיים ה כ:ג
אם אשה יכולה להוציא איש ידי חובת ההגדה…הנה פשוט לכאורה דמאחר שהאשה נמי חייבת באמירת הגדה כאנשים, דבכל חיובי פסח האשה חייבת מהיקשא דכל שישנו באכילת חמץ ישנו באכילת מצה, שהוא גם לכל מ”ע [מצות עשה] דאיכא בפסח מדאורייתא. והא דהוצרך ריב”ל [=רבי יהושע בן לוי] בפסחים דף ק”ח ע”א, על מה שחייבות נשים בד’ כוסות, לטעם שאף הן היו באותו הנס, הוא משום דכיוון דהוא רק מדרבנן היה מקום לומר דכיוון דהוא זמן גרמא, שהתורה הקלה להן בשאר מצוות, לא תיקנו להן רבנן, אף בפסח שחייבות במ”ע [=במצוות עשה] שמן התורה. לכן אמר ריב”ל [=רבי יהושע בן לוי] שגם לנשים תיקנו, מטעם שאף הן היו באותו הנס….אבל עיין בב”י [=בבית יוסף], שכתב נשים חייבות בד’ כוסות שאף הן היו באותו הנס, ומטעם זה צריך לומר שהן חייבות בכל מצוות הנוהגות בלילה. והוא דלא כתוס[פות] דסברי שלעניין מ”ע [מצות עשה] דאורייתא לא אמרינן טעם זה, כדהוכיחו מסוכה, אלא סובר הב”י [=הבית יוסף] דגם למ”ע [=למצות עשה] דאורייתא, נמי אמרינן טעם זה. ..
Iggerot Moshe OC V 2:3
Can a woman fulfil a man’s obligation in the haggada?… It seems simple that, since a woman is also obligated in reciting the haggada like men, because a woman is obligated in all the obligations of Pesach based on an analogy [hekesh], that whoever is obligated in [the prohibition against] eating chametz is obligated in eating matza, which also applies to all positive Torah-level commandments of Pesach. Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi (Pesachim 108a) needed the reason that they also were included in the miracle for women’s obligation in the four cups because, since it is only rabbinic, there is room to say that since it is time-bound, with which the Torah was lenient for women with other mitzvot, the Rabbis did not institute it for them, even on Pesach when they are obligated in Torah-level positive commandments. Therefore, Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said that they established it for women as well, for the reason of inclusion in the miracle…But see Beit Yosef, who wrote that women are obligated in the four cups because of inclusion in the miracle, and for this reason one must say that they are obligated in all the mitzvot practiced that night. This is not in accordance with Tosafot, who thought that this reason does not apply to positive Torah-level mitzvot, as they proved from sukka, but Beit Yosef thinks that this reason also applies to positive Torah-level mitzvot.
שו”ת יחוה דעת ב:סה
גם הנשים חייבות בהגדה ובסיפור יציאת מצרים בליל פסח, מן התורה, ויכולות להוציא את האנשים ידי חובתם.
Yechaveh Da'at II:65
Women are also obligated in the haggada and in telling the story of the Exodus on Pesach night, from the Torah, and can fulfil men’s obligations.
In Practice
חיי אדם חלק ב-ג (הלכות שבת ומועדים) כלל קל
גם נשים חייבות בכל המצוות ובאמירת הגדה. ולכן חיוב שגם המשרתת תשב אצל השולחן ותשמע כל הגדה. ואם צריכה לצאת לחוץ לבשל, על כל פנים מחויבת לשמוע הקידוש, ולכשיגיע לר’ גמליאל אומר כל שלא כו’, תכנוס ותשמע עד לאחר שתיית כוס ב’, שהרי מי שלא אמר ג’ דברים הללו, לא יצא. ונוהגין שגם קוראין אותם שתשמע העשר מכות שהביא על המצרים, כדי להגיד להם כמה נסים עשה הקדוש ברוך הוא בשביל ישראל.
Chayyei Adam Kelal 130
Women are also obligated in all the mitzvot and in reciting the haggada. Therefore, the maid must also sit at the table and hear the whole haggada. If she needs to go out to cook, she is at least obligated to hear kiddush, and when he reaches “Rabban Gamliel says, whoever did not…,” she should come in and listen until after the drinking of the second cup, for whoever did not say these three things, has not fulfilled his obligation. Our practice is also to call them to hear the ten plagues that He brought upon Egypt, in order to tell them how many miracles the Holy One, blessed be He, did for Israel.
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Are all women today “important”? What does that mean for us?
Specific halachot, most notably reclining on leil ha-seder, depend on whether a person is considered important.
Early halachic authorities offer a variety of explanations for why a woman would be called important. These include that she has a non-servile relationship with her husband, that she may be head of her household, that she may be a woman of means, or that she has a particularly high religious standing.
In the thirteenth century, Mordechai wrote that “all our women are considered important.” What had changed?
Rav Moshe Feinstein rejects the idea that women of thirteenth century Ashkenaz had been suddenly transformed. Rather, men came to understand that they had nothing to lord over women, and women came to understand their importance to their husbands. A new depth of understanding about gender was reached at this stage.
שו”ת אגרות משה אורח חיים ה:כ
… שהכירו במשך הזמן שאין להאינשי במה להתגאות נגד נשותיהן, והנשי הכירו צורך הגדול שיש להאינשי בהן. והמיעוט חשובות שהיו בכל הזמנים היו נשי כאלו שהכירו צורך הבעל בהן, כמו שיש להו צורך בבעליהן, והכירו שגם בעליהן יודעין זה דהסיבה הא אין זה דבר חדש, אלא תיקנו דמעשה אכילתו ושתייתו שחייבה תורה להכיר החירות והגאולה, יהיה באופן שיותר יש בו היכר החירות.
Iggerot Moshe OC 5:20
…That they recognized over time that men have nothing to lord over their wives, and the women recognized the great need men have for them. And the minority of important women that existed in all eras were women like this, who recognized their husbands’ need for them, just as they need their husbands, and recognized that their husbands also know this. Reclining is not a new innovation, but [the sages] established that one’s act of eating and drinking ordained by the Torah to recognize freedom and redemption, should be in a manner that more clearly signifies freedom.
Our sages recognized that a woman could be considered important, free from the social disadvantages that many women faced. As women’s overall social standing improved, early halachic authorities were quick to recognize it, and its halachic implications.
How can someone balance home responsibilities with the mitzva of maggid?
It can be hard to be present for the entire mitzva of maggid while also laying out a meal or tending to young children or others who need care. Here are some ideas for making it work:
1. As much as possible, enlist others in advance to shoulder these responsibilities together with you.
2. Try to plan a menu that will not require you to do anything (or almost anything) between kiddush and eating. Also, it is helpful to have food available that can be offered to kids easily, with no preparation involved.
3. Arrange with someone to lead a discussion, activity, or song when you have to leave the table, so that you don’t miss essential parts of the Seder.
4. If breastfeeding, try to set up a place or way to nurse comfortably within earshot of the Seder. If there are young children to tend to, set up resting spots near the table where they can lie down and “rest” when tired without needing to be formally put to bed. If kids are preschool age or older, do everything you can to involve them in the Seder, which is, after all, a central element of the mitzva of maggid.
Putting the time and thought into troubleshooting in advance can make a big difference in creating a rhythm that will work for you even if you can’t sit or recline all night long.
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